Confused about the Trinity? Or how God can be Jesus and not Jesus at the same time? How can he be God and man, and all that other fun stuff?
Well, don’t worry – odds are that your own pastor doesn’t really understand or believe it either.
Watch this recent video I found of Pastor James Schwab speaking at Converge 2009 (Saskatoon, SK). He makes some very interesting remarks on the nature of Christ, which are quite misguided for a licensed PAOC minister and bible college graduate.
Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ZOaB4LfEo&feature=related
Pay special attention to these two parts:
“For God so loved the world that He came in the form of Jesus…”
In “Leave Your Pain With God – Part 3” From Converge 2009, about 3mins in.
Then states that in Matthew 27:46 at about 4mins 30seconds in the video that on the cross: “Jesus became only man because the God part of him separated.”
James Schwab was a graduate from Horizon College & Seminary in 1998, and is now a minister with the PAOC at Lac du Bonnet’s Abundant Life Chapel in Manitoba.
For those who actually study Christology or even just entry level Church history/apologetics you will notice that his statements go against the Nicene Creed where The Council of Nicaea defined that Jesus was fully divine and also human, and the Council of Chalcedon. The Council established a ruling on the doctrine known as the hypostatic union. In short, this doctrine states that two natures, one human and one divine, are united in the one person of Christ.
James Schwab’s statements seem to fit along the lines of the Adoptionists who taught that Jesus was born fully human, and was adopted as God’s Son when John the Baptist baptised him. Or, even another group known as the Ebionites, who taught that Jesus was not God, but was a human messiah/prophet that was endowed with God’s Spirit.
I was thinking at first that his statement of God coming to earth in “the form of Jesus” at first seemed like early gnostic sects which taught docetism. Docetism says that Jesus was fully divine, no part human, and his human body was only illusory. However, when combined with his last statement of the God presence leaving Christ – making him just a man again, we see that this is more of a case of Adoptionist theory and Unitarianism.
These views can also be described as Unitarianism since they go against the belief of the Trinity and show just one God (The Father) empowering or coming upon a man with His power, or God The Father coming down to the earth in the form of Jesus – one God but just different name for Him.
These views, which directly relate to how one understood the Godhead (Trinity), were declared heresies by the Council of Nicaea. In the modern era, a number of denominations have rejected the Nicene doctrine of the Trinity, including the Christadelphians and the Jehovah’s Witnesses. Mainstream Christian churches usually regard these groups as modern versions of the Arian heresy.
Long story short – most people do not understand or agree with the idea of the Trinity or the nature of Christ’s divinity.
Furthermore, question if your preachers are fit to be preaching.
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